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Message started by PMSoares on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:38pm

Title: Re: Too sensitive in pitch?
Post by mk182 on Feb 4th, 2012 at 7:32am

CoolP wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Hi, PMSoares and welcome to the 707 club.  :)

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As far as I was told, the 707 was very "heavy" in commands and very stable in all axis.

I think this is true as the plane only has a powered rudder while the rest is up to the arrangement of the arms and levers driven by the pilot's inputs.

The only thing one can reproduce in the sim is the actual distance needed to deflect some Ailerons or Elevator. The whole aspect of the centring forces or the ones which are to overcome on each movement are done via the spring in your yoke or joystick. Flying a joystick also enables you to be much quicker on the flight control movement, the distance to e. g. bank the plane is much less than on a yoke.
So this artificial hardware setup on a PC may contribute to your impression of too sporty reactions. Those centring forces and springs may be too weak to reflect some large rw yoke plus metres of cable until the actual flight control is reached.

If you really feel that the plane behaves too sporty, you could do some things though.
Edit the FSX control settings, this would affect all planes though.
Edit the aircraft.cfg, this would need a lot of trial and error I think.
Edit the way the flight control movement gets interpreted by FSX, this is done via FSUIPC (registered) and can be assigned plane specific. You could enable a progressive input curve there, requiring more distance around the centre and then progressing more or less steeply.

Or you could use some force feedback hardware and maybe addon software. I've set up a large damping force there for the 707 and also some friction, so while the joystick of mine would allow a fast movement, the forces stop me from being too fast.
I think this solution may be the most expensive one, but also allows a nice tweaking of the actual feel of the plane. With the mentioned setup, it feels like a heavy and 'no power steering' one. Very enjoyable.


I think he's referring to the the autopilot pitch wheel. You hold it for one second and the nose shoots up (or down) many many degrees. I think he means that in order to trim the plane out, the pitch trim wheel should not be so sensitive.

At least, its how I understood it, I could be wrong. Only because I noticed it too :P

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