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Message started by TopofDescent on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 2:00pm

Title: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by TopofDescent on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 2:00pm
Does anyone know how a 707 pilot would light a cockpit at night for takeoff, cruise and landing? For example, the light override on the overhead console turns on a white light hidden by the glare sheild. Would that be used in flight or does that damage night vision? Would they use the Dome Red in flight? Would they turn off all the lights once in cruise (outside of the gauges)? Was there a "best practice"?

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by LOU on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:55pm
TopofDescent,

Lighting in a cockpit is always a personal thing. Some pilots would fly in a very dark cockpit, others would make it a bit brighter.
Here are a few examples I made using the CS-707...


This is an example of a very dark cockpit:
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5277/707pitnight.jpg

Here is a slightly brighter version:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7292/707pitnight2.jpg

This is more like it would be at cruise altitude. The red flood could be adjusted to suit. None of the new planes use red cockpit light.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2678/707pitnight3.jpg

Hope this helps...  ;)

Lou


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Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Markoz on Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:57am
For taking off and landing at night, mine looks like the first pic. Once I am cleaned up and climbing, I switch on the White Dome light (unless I want or need to see out of the windows better) OR on the Taxiway, I usually use the Red Dome light because I get less window reflection (it seems to).

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Islander on Aug 24th, 2011 at 9:25am
LOU is on the mark, night lighting is a personal thing to a degree but some aeroplanes had better lights than others. Me, I liked it dark and put on the overhead or map light to read a map or chart when required. I once flew with an old crusty captain who liked it all up and as bright as you could get it, used to drive me crazy but I appreciated his technique when operating in bad weather which we used to do at low level doing maritime patrol and the radar is painting red and purple, when you down at 500ft over the ocean on a dark and stormy night going this way and that as the radar controllers up the back vector you onto a ship,you wanted to see everything and very quickly when the annunciator panel lit up with a red fault in driving rain and crap turbulence and I used this technique in these sort of conditions but on the cruise home at flight levels still liked it dark and quiet.

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by TopofDescent on Aug 24th, 2011 at 11:18am
Hey guys, thanks for the insight!! Double thanks to Lou for the trouble he took making the screen shots.
All the best,
Kirt

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Kapitan on Sep 12th, 2011 at 10:16pm
Your request is valid because there are very few pictures of real 707 cockpits at night. Here one of the few, and not necessary to say, flightsim cockpit lightning is ages from reality.
cockpit2.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by expat on Sep 14th, 2011 at 12:44pm
747-100/200 series?

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by LOU on Sep 19th, 2011 at 1:41am
expat,

It sure looks like a 747 to me too.

Lou  :o

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by fs_addict on Sep 22nd, 2011 at 12:32am
With me it's medium bright with takeoff/landing but otherwise dome's always on.

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Avantime on Sep 27th, 2011 at 4:13am
Night lighting from the CAC 707 DVD, orange-ish color:



Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by LOU on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:34pm
This is more as I remember the lighting. Your picture, just adjusted for color.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7424/707night.jpg

Lou

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Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Mike67 on Jan 18th, 2013 at 2:51am
Red lighting was used until recently because it does not effect the cones in the eyes like white lighting would. Therefore, vision outside for takeoff and landings is better.

However, development of illumination systems that do not use filament sources allow use of blue-white or green tinted lighting, which is more natural.

I recall the spare "peanut bulb" compartment in every early Navy jet I flew, and having to change a few of these "eyebrow" type bulbs in flight. A real nuisance!!

Title: Re: Night Cockpit Lighting in a real 707
Post by Firecapt_32 on Feb 21st, 2013 at 6:18pm
The worst kind of lighting system for cockpits........LIGHTNING.

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