Lou-- I didn't know there was a difference between VASI and PAPI?? Does FS model both?? I don't remember seeing anything but that which you call PAPI(all in a row).?

As I mentioned above I seem to recall rwy 4 at JFK doesn't seem to have any lights in FSX. I have experienced that at a couple major airports which surprises me.

Btw, I downloaded paint.net and still can't figure out how you do the circles and squares with arrows on the pictures. What's the secret?

Bruce