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Message started by btscott on Jul 4th, 2011 at 5:34pm

Title: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 4th, 2011 at 5:34pm
I can't figure out how it works! How do you set a target altitude etc?? Lou? Mark? Appreciate any help!



Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by LOU on Jul 4th, 2011 at 7:41pm
Other than the radar altimeter... there is no altitude alert that I know of, unless you can add it to the panel.

Lou

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 4th, 2011 at 9:41pm
Thanks, Lou----

On page 19 of manual 2 the description of the Electric Altimeter (L14) describes the alerter.???

(I tried to include a picture in the prior post but it didn't take)

When you flew the 707 did you rely just on memory for the target altitude?

Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by LOU on Jul 5th, 2011 at 12:06am
Yup! It was a different time...

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 2:51am
Well, okay, I guess that's why you had a pencil handy, eh?

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by Markoz on Jul 5th, 2011 at 6:38am
Hi Bruce.

The only altitude alert type of thing, that I know of, is the little yellow light that flashes when you get close to decision height on the RADIO ALTIMETER.

Mark

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 1:41pm
Thanks, Mark. But I wonder why the description of an alerter on page 14 of manual 2 when detailing the Electric Altimeter (L14)???
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Another question ---- when you and Lou add pictures of gauges with the colored circles and squares with arrows for highlighting features what program or tool is that??

Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by Markoz on Jul 5th, 2011 at 1:55pm
I see what you mean about the Altitude Alerter. I think I know how that works, but I have to finish my current flight in another aircraft before I can test my theory. Once I have, I let you know if it works or not.

For editing my images, I use mspaint.exe (Paint) in Windows 7, which is a massive improvement over Paint in Windows XP. I quite often use Windows Snipping tool on the screen to copy an area of the screen I am interested in using, then I paste it into Paint and do not too fancy things to it. I'll bet that Lou uses something better than Paint to edit his images!

Mark

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 2:38pm
I have looked and looked at that gauge, but other than moving the yellow pointer around (which I don't see the purpose of) and adjusting the barometer setting there is no way to set a target altitude and there is no sound.

Okay, I use XP Paint quite a bit (don't have Windows 7) and it doesn't seem to have that function.

One last thing--- I can't post images. I believe I have been denied that privilege for some reason, although I have never been told why. I have been looking for a way to pm the admin (is that Tanya?) but can't figure that out either. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Mark.

Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by Markoz on Jul 5th, 2011 at 3:42pm
Here is how I thought it worked, but I was wrong. I thought that he little yellow triangle would signify the height by the amount of times it rotated. This would have meant that it needed to rotated around the dial 10 times for 10,000 feet. It is so slow that I wouldn't use it if that had turned out to be how it worked.

I thought it might have worked that way because in some other 3rd party add-on aircraft I have, it has something simmilar to that that spins around the dial at the rate of once for every one thousand feet of altitude I enter in the Altitude Hold of the A/P. As I said, I was wrong. :(

To post an image, there are two ways.
1) You browse for an image, no larger than 200KB, by clicking on the BROWSE button (to browse for an image on your computer and upload it) below the Smilies below were you type your posts.
2) You join Imageshack or Photobucket (or anywhere) that allows you to upload photos/images. To place an image in the post from them you need a link to where the photo/image is located on the web. Like this:

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whichresultsinthis:

[img]http://www.captainsim.com/user/dl/x707/x701captain.jpg

Hope this helps.

Mark
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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by LOU on Jul 5th, 2011 at 4:54pm
Bruce,

I use a number of different graphic programs. I have CorelDraw 12 to do fancy stuff, I also have a free program called Paint.NET ver 3.5.8.
I like Paint.NET because it does a pretty good job of screen captures and then I can change size, and doctor the picture for color or brightness and sharpness. I also have the ones Mark uses, but I use Imageshack to up-load the pictures to the forum.




This was all we had in the dark ages. This little mechanical yellow triangle was set by rotating the small knob and setting in a minder altitude. In the image below, I have set in 200 feet in both the baro altimeter and the radar altimeter. The baro has no warning at all, just the little yellow triangle. The radar altimeter has a small amber light which comes on as the plane passes through the altitude. Some of the radar altimeters had a rising tone which gave you a little warning as you approached the selected altitude. As you reached the altitude the tone abruptly stopped. There was one on the L-1011 that sounded like a ping pong ball as you neared the selected altitude.

On takeoff in the 707, you would set 800 feet AGL in the altimeter. This was the altitude you would level off at and clean-up in the event of an engine failure.


http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9050/alt1.jpg


Lou





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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 5:19pm
Mark --

What Lou just posted is all there is, I guess. I can see some practical application for the Radar Altimeter within a couple thousand feet AGL, but the other one doesn't seem very useful. The one in the 727 was a major leap forward!

I have tried both of the forum methods of posting pics and I always get a message that for security reasons I have to re-select the pic. When I do re-select it. I get this symbol, but no picture is uploaded.

Lou, thanks for the explanation and the tips for paint.net etc. Will look into that.

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 5:24pm
Well, whaddayaknow! It worked this time, but I didn't intend for my response to be posted just yet!! I was just going to review it to see if the pic was there. ??? Weird!

Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by LOU on Jul 5th, 2011 at 5:48pm
Not weird, WIRED!  ::)

Just mix it the correct way, and relax....

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4396/manhattany.jpg


Is it 17:00 yet???  ;D

Lou



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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 6:15pm
Hah! Lou--- That's a great picture--- I'm going to save it!

I think it may have been our go-around with the Manhattan Approach thing way back that got my picture posting privilege revoked. Or maybe I posted a picture of some non CS airplane. (been reading the rules)

You know, I believe it IS amber night here tonight. Last night it was Vodka Martinis!  :)


Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by LOU on Jul 5th, 2011 at 6:42pm
Decisions, decisions....

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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 7:19pm
Hey, it's only 1500 there, Capt. Lou!! Getting an early start?

I know----- it's 5 o'clock somewhere!


8-)

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 5th, 2011 at 9:11pm
Okay, Lou it's 1710 there---- get the shaker moving!  ;D

BTS

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by Markoz on Jul 6th, 2011 at 6:07am

btscott wrote on Jul 5th, 2011 at 5:24pm:
Well, whaddayaknow! It worked this time, but I didn't intend for my response to be posted just yet!! I was just going to review it to see if the pic was there. ??? Weird!

Bruce

If you want to remove an image you uploaded to the Captain Sim server (using BROWSE), click on the MODIFY button on your posts (you won't see that option on other peoples posts/reply. ONLY YOURS). Once there, you will see an option to delete the image you uploaded or to replace it with a different one (see attached image).

Hope this helps.

Mark
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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 6th, 2011 at 2:05pm
Good tip, Mark!

Thanks once again.

Bruce

Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by Markoz on Jul 6th, 2011 at 4:48pm

btscott wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 2:05pm:
Good tip, Mark!

Thanks once again.

Bruce

I'm curious about how things work. I actually clicked on the Help tab and read up on what different things you can get to do in the Forum. ;D

Mark
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Title: Re: Altitude Alerter
Post by btscott on Jul 6th, 2011 at 7:14pm
Hah! I did the same when trying to figure out why I couldn't insert images. I even went so far as to read the forum rules to see if I violated any!! Miraculously, I can post images now---- I think!



Bruce

Well, I guess I still can't! All that appears is the img thing!

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