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707 Captain >> 707 Captain >> South African Airways livery https://www.captainsim.org/forum/csf.pl?num=1303268065 Message started by keatles on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 2:54am

Title: South African Airways livery
Post by keatles on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 2:54am

Hi Alex

Thanks for a great model. I accumulated over 2400 hours on 707s, and it was one of the most graceful airplanes I ever flew.
Not many people know that the only hydraulic power control was to the rudder and yaw damper system - the horizontal stabilizer was electrically trimmed but manually moved, and the ailerons manually controlled with aerodynamic assistance.

My only criticism of my old airline's livery (SAA) is the distorted springbok. I have done a repaint and would be happy to share it with anyone.

Alan

springbok.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by boeing247 on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 3:52am

Did you upload it to the livery catalog? :)

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by keatles on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 5:41am

I will upload one B707-344B and a B707-344C.
8-)

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by Captain Sim 2 on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 12:10pm

Dear Alan,

Thank you for kind comments. Yes please upload the mods to our catalogue.

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by Pinatubo on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 12:40pm

Hi Alan,

I agree with your criticism. Prior to 1997 the emblem of SAA was a blue "flying" Springbok (Afrikaans and Dutch: spring = jump; bok = antelope or goat), on an orange background. Orange, white and blue were the then national colours of South Africa and the springbok was the national emblem. The tail of SAA aircraft were orange with the springbok logo in the centre.

"Springbok" is the call sign of SAA flights.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8qTBdHZN3wtJl1_R4IojrgUKTbUO4EFyeF0PCfPnIng-YLcVt http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8mtnv7aLvHB3aGOQT_gPt1HX73LrpbMDAXqhUC81bPNga0g_h

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by keatles on Apr 20^th, 2011 at 9:41pm

@Pinatubo

The livery you show is a later one than the one supplied by CaptSim - I don't think any 707s were repainted in the 1980s livery before they were sold off.
Here are the springboks from the 1960s . 1970s and 1980s.

Alan

SAA_logos.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by Pinatubo on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 2:32am

Hi Alan,

Well, I found the SAA (coloured) emblem showed in my last post and others historical emblems as below, at SAA Museum Society website http://www.saamuseum.co.za/saa-history.html (bottom of page). I think it is a reliable source.

1934 / 1948 / 1971

Pinatubo.

Title: Re: South African Airways livery
Post by keatles on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 8:50am

Hi Pinatubo

To explain the difference, below is a picture of SAA B737s in the liveries from 1968 to 1980 (from L to R).

The springbok you show in your first post is the 1980s livery. No 707 was ever painted in this livery. I know, because I flew both types(707 & 737) between 1968 and 1980 at SAA.

The Captain Sim springbok is a distorted version of the 1970s emblem.

SAA_liveries.jpg (Attachment deleted)