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707 Captain >> 707 Captain >> Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3 https://www.captainsim.org/forum/csf.pl?num=1299467491 Message started by cyberstudio on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 3:11am

Title: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by cyberstudio on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 3:11am

I cant deploy the reverses :-?

Its working on the pax and cargo, but i can't do it on the E-3

Anyone with the same issue?

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by Markoz on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 3:29am

I'll back you up on that!

I tried editing the aircraft.cfg,

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.0022
inlet_area=15.000
rated_N2_rpm=10095.000
static_thrust=18963.000
afterburner_available=0
reverser_available=1 � //0

but that didn't get it working either.

Mark

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by cyberstudio on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 3:52am

That was a problem when i landed at tncm ;D

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by speck on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 12:51pm

The E-3 does not have reversers from what I recall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrBoTpGigg&feature=fvwrel

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by Markoz on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 1:09pm

speck wrote on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 12:51pm:

The E-3 does not have reversers from what I recall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrBoTpGigg&feature=fvwrel

It sure looked like that one didn't have reversers. I guess that means Captain Sim got it right.

Mark

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by CoolP on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 1:26pm

I think the military guys often don't install thrust reversers (they even uninstall them sometimes) unless they really, really need them. Might be a cost/inspection time aspect and yes, the E-3 does not come with such things in rw (from my knowledge).
Since the payload and passenger load on the E-3 doesn't really get high (or changes like on a Freighter or Passenger Transport), the only big load will be the fuel while those planes operate from very sufficient runway bases.
But that's just guesswork of mine, never mind. �:)

So, in my eyes, Mark is perfectly right with applauding to the fact that CS modelled this "lack".

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by wiltzei on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 8:03pm

Technically speaking, approach shouldn�t have been tried in the first place, if the calculated stopping distance exceeds 60 percent of the effective runway length. Reversers are considered INOP in calculations.

But everything can be tried in the simulator and military personnel are military personnel. :D

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by clay on Mar 7^th, 2011 at 10:58pm

No E-3 Sentry's do not have TR in real life (like the KC-135 idk about other Military 707 mods) maily because they are too heavy! But I do know this the E-6 Mercury does in fact have them on their planes. :) (I would know...*in a sarcastic tone* huh, probably because I live 30 mins away from Tinker AFB...lol

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by pj747 on Mar 8^th, 2011 at 2:56am

Those military runways are pretty long....

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by mopo on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 12:54am

I piloted the E-3 Sentry during the period 1980-83 and can assure you there are no thrust-reversers on the real jet . We control runway length with pre-planning, plus we have large brakes and tires (due to our foot-print) and we have have inflight refueling to control fuel weight, making runway length not an issue. Attached is a copy of the cockpit, showing no thrust-reverse levers on the throttles.

E3A_over_Saudi.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by mopo on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 6:53am

I included the cockpit photo in my previous message (above) to show you that the thrust levers are "bare" with no reverser levers attached.

Title: Re: Can't deploy the reverses on the E-3
Post by LOU on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

In FAA certification the reverse thrust is not considered in the calculations. It's just something extra in case you need it! 8-)