So Lou, my family friend flew for United, and is about your age, he flew the DC-8, 747, 777, 727...I think Caravelle, I'm not sure. But anyways, with United, he was the flight engineer on a DC-6, where you an FE on the ol' TWA Connies or other propliners before you got to jets? My Dad flew DC-3s before Delta, and his friend was the FE in a DC-4 in Canada before Delta, how 'bout you?