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Title: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 1:10pm

Hi.

I have today uploaded to avsim.com and flightsim.com a 1968 style repaint of the Northwest Orient Airlines 707-351. I hope you like it!

nwa_screen_4_large__.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 1:12pm

...and another screen.

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Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Kapitan on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 2:15pm

Again, same thing I said to david...
The letter fonts are not quite right.
You see, painting is easy...just get the right colors and swoosh, the software washes whatever part of the fuselage you selected. But for the letter fonts you need to have a complete sets of fonts or research hard for the right one. This is the most difficult part in paintings.

Most paints fail at these in some way and that is what first strikes out.
If you didnt fly in Northwest in the 70s, if you are painting just based on photos you saw, then it doesnt affects you.

But if you were alive and travelling in 707s in the 70s you realise such details as fonts...is so important. Otherwise the paint is excellent. Thanks.

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

Most of the letters (and decals!) are made with vectorgraphics, based on photographs of the real aircraft, and that took some time!!so a lecture on how easy it is to make a repaint seems to me a little out of place.

If I missed something, I hope you can excuse me. I am only human. I can give you, that the white-letter fonds on the tail could be different, the rest is fine (I think!)

kindly
Jakob Arnholtz :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by DarrenL on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 6:29pm

It looks good but I agree with you that the tail name needs a change, to be a thicker (bolder) font, see photo below. And I think the other guy might be talking about the registration number "N377US" which on the photo below appears to be in a square type font. Almost like a calculator.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Northwest-Orient-Airlines/Boeing-707-351C/0128019/L/&sid=13cf1a0d7f86150afa4bcba87b7fccd4

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 6:32pm

I will look in to the matter when I have some spare time.

It can be really hard to judge from the old and sometimes out of focus photos, wich fond to use. I felt when desiding the fonts for the reg. nr. that they where close to the photocollection I am using, but one can easyly be fooled.

Thanks for the link.

Kindly

Jakob Arnholtz :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by AlbertM on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 7:21pm

Lovely paint, Jakob ! I can't judge on the letters (and I actually couldn't care less to be honest 8-) ).
Keep up the good work !
Thanks
Albert

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 7:25pm

Thank you Albert for the kind words. They are much appreciated.

Kindly

Jakob Arnholtz :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by speck on Jan 10^th, 2011 at 7:32pm

Great work Jakob :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Kapitan on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 1:43pm

Jakob,
didnt meant to be rude, I loved the tail detail, including the cracks, but felt the font was off, perhaps a little thicker should be ok.

Northwest itself had different font thickness in the 707s. This one is really thick:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Northwest-Orient-Airlines/Boeing-707-351C/1139091/L/&sid=c54075961e1c491cd537ffe17a1df4a1

and this one is less
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Northwest-Orient-Airlines/Boeing-720-051B/0568626/L/&sid=c54075961e1c491cd537ffe17a1df4a1

but they are a bit different than yours. No big deal but shouldnt be a problem adjusting. Hope my input was constructive. :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Markoz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 4:13pm

Hi Jakob.

Great job. As someone who is no good at doing repaints, you won't hear any complaints from me. If it's close enough, it's good enough. So keep up the great work. ;)

Mark

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by speck on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:43pm

I would ever be grateful if someone (Jakob) �;) �did this old legend.
Sorry I had to post a pic of a model to show the right colors.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Western-Airlines/Boeing-707-347C/0623357/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Western-Airlines/Boeing-720-047B/0539389/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Western-Airlines/Boeing-720-047B/0111736/L/

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/Inflight%20200%20707/707Western001.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/Inflight%20200%20707/707Western007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/Inflight%20200%20707/707Western006.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/Inflight%20200%20707/707Western005.jpg

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:47pm

I have this afternoon uploadet a second version of the NW Orient 1968, since Kapitan and Darren L has pointet out inaccuracy in the fonts I have been using for the first upload.

After a thorough examination of the photos at my disposal, I have made corrections and a change of most of the fonds from the first upload (The two gentlemen was right!!) and the version 2 is as close as I can get.

It can really be hard to decide fonts from unsharp and low resolution scans (Some of them more than 40 years old) from the internet, and in addition to that, Nortwest uses several different fonts for the same kind of paintwork through the sixties.

Thanks to Kapitan and Darren for their constructive input. :) And now a couple of screens:

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Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:48pm

Another screen of V.2

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Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:49pm

...and yet another!

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Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:54pm

speck wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:43pm:

Hi speck. A beautifull aircraft!! It could be great fun to do a repaint, but I do not have the time in the nearest future. Perhaps later :)

Kindly

Jakob Arnholtz

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by DarrenL on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 8:59pm

Very nice Jakob :)

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Kapitan on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 9:50pm

Now its perfect! Great paint Jakob, thanks!

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by Jakobarnholtz on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 11:32pm

Thank you for the kind words. :)
I hope, that the updated uploads at avsim and flightsim servers vill be available soon.

sleep well.

All the Best
Jakob

Title: Re: Northwest Orient 1968 Repaint uploaded to Avsim
Post by speck on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 5:19pm

Jakobarnholtz wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:54pm:

speck wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 7:43pm:

Hi speck. A beautifull aircraft!! It could be great fun to do a repaint, but I do not have the time in the nearest future. Perhaps later :)

Kindly

Jakob Arnholtz

No problems :) thanks for v2 of the nw repaint