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Message started by Mric29 on Oct 4th, 2010 at 10:48am

Title: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by Mric29 on Oct 4th, 2010 at 10:48am
I am looking for switch on the passenger light but I cannot find it ! Do you know where it is?  :-?

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Markoz on Oct 4th, 2010 at 11:13am
You can only turn them on using the keyboard shortcut. The default is SHIFT + L.

Mark

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Mric29 on Oct 4th, 2010 at 5:14pm
I've already tried it but it didn't work. The light ignites half a second before going out.  :(

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Markoz on Oct 5th, 2010 at 12:13am
It shouldn't go out after half a second. If I press SHIFT+L, I get extra light on in the cockpit as well as in the passenger cabin. Sometimes, if I forget that, I'm wondering what light switch I haven't turned off until it dawns on me.

Are you sure that you aren't holding the keys for a fraction too long so that the key press repeats in half a second?

Mark

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Nick Cooper on Oct 6th, 2010 at 5:38am
I think the "Dome light white" and "control stand white" switches  also control the passengers' lights.
Regards,
Nick.

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Markoz on Oct 6th, 2010 at 7:57am
The White & Red Dome lights light up the cockpit and I use them a lot. The only way that I know of to turn on the Passenger Cabin lights is using SHIFT+L. Captain Sim provided the above answer when someone else asked.

Mark

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by LOU on Oct 6th, 2010 at 6:44pm
I think the "Dome light white" and "control stand white" switches  also control the passengers' lights.
Regards,
Nick.

Mark, you are correct.
The dome white and red lights are the 4 round lights on the cockpit ceiling. The control stand light illuminates the center pedestal where the thrust levers, flap lever and radios are located. There were no lighting controls for the cabin in the cockpit except the circuit breakers.

Lou

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Nick Cooper on Oct 6th, 2010 at 7:52pm
Point taken about the domelights.
Following your comments,in my installation of FSX,pressing Shift+L does indeed switch on the passengers lights,however,
switching the "Light Override" switch to "Override" appears to do the same.
This may be the answer to the original question
I am new to the 707 and indeed to the forum,so I have no idea if this is a coincidence or what happens in real life.
I imagine that in the real thing,each passenger would have their own switches,but the crew have the override switch to maintain overall control?

Regards,
Nick.

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by LOU on Oct 6th, 2010 at 8:24pm
I imagine that in the real thing,each passenger would have their own switches,but the crew have the override switch to maintain overall control?

Regards,
Nick.

Nick,

In the 707 the main cabin lighting consisted of indirect lighting along the wall called COVE lights. There were also dome lights in the ceiling down the middle of the cabin. These dome lights were on dimmers so on night flights the cabin lights could be lowered for people to sleep yet enough light was available to keep an eye on the cabin. The dome lights had a dark blue glow position with stars that shown. It looked like you were looking up through the ceiling at the sky.

http://www.adastron.com/707/qantas/707-138-cabin.htm

The passenger seat reading light was controlled by the passenger only. You could open the circuit breaker in the cockpit to turn off reading lights as well as all the other lights in case of electrical fire.

In later aircraft (747+) lighting control of all lights was moved to the cabin at the F/A stations. The F/As could turn on or off areas of lights including reading lights if desired. Cockpit override was still kept in the event of some problem.

Lou

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Nick Cooper on Oct 6th, 2010 at 8:36pm
Thank you Lou.
I have already read enough posts to see that you are a true authority and I am very grateful for such a full reply.

Regards,
Nick.

Title: Re: Look for light switch
Post by Mric29 on Oct 8th, 2010 at 11:10am
Thanks, it works fine !

Just a video link of an Air France Boeing 707...

http://www.airfrancelasaga.com/hangar/?lang=fr_fr

click [VOIR LA VIDEO], below on the left side.

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by 707captain on Oct 14th, 2010 at 7:24pm
With Shift+L the passenger cabin illuminates, BUT: The big round lights at the cabin ceiling are still OFF, only the area around these lights is brighter.
Other effect: The background illumination of the cockpit panels is turned on (I mean all the small letters e.g. of the overhead panel), looks pretty nice.  For this, I also did not find a switch

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by Nick Cooper on Oct 15th, 2010 at 12:12am

707captain wrote on Oct 14th, 2010 at 7:24pm:
With Shift+L the passenger cabin illuminates, BUT: The big round lights at the cabin ceiling are still OFF, only the area around these lights is brighter.
Other effect: The background illumination of the cockpit panels is turned on (I mean all the small letters e.g. of the overhead panel), looks pretty nice.  For this, I also did not find a switch



Quote:
Following your comments,in my installation of FSX,pressing Shift+L does indeed switch on the passengers lights,however,
switching the "Light Override" switch to "Override" appears to do the same.


Regards,
Nick.

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by Markoz on Oct 15th, 2010 at 12:19am
The switch does, indeed, appear to work the same pressing SHIFT+L. The circular dome lights in the cabin change slightly, it's hard to tell if they are turning on or not, but just above the overhead storage bins some soft fluorescent lights do come on.

Mark

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by 707captain on Oct 15th, 2010 at 8:21am
Now that is really bad. It means that I need t have the full cockpit lights on only to have the cabin illuminated.

Also, there MUST be a switch to turn on the panel background illumination (the letters, numbers, symbols etc, not the instruments themselves). This also works with "Shift+L" or the light override switch.

It is not realistic to fly with all lights on in the cockpit at night.

@CAPTAINSIM: PLEASE FIX!!!

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by TheFinn on Oct 15th, 2010 at 9:09am

707captain wrote on Oct 15th, 2010 at 8:21am:
Now that is really bad. It means that I need t have the full cockpit lights on only to have the cabin illuminated.

Also, there MUST be a switch to turn on the panel background illumination (the letters, numbers, symbols etc, not the instruments themselves). This also works with "Shift+L" or the light override switch.

It is not realistic to fly with all lights on in the cockpit at night.

@CAPTAINSIM: PLEASE FIX!!!


They wont move a finger when you dont create a ticket for that issue...  ;) Feel free to create one!  :)

Title: Re: Look for light switch /Solved/
Post by Markoz on Oct 15th, 2010 at 12:07pm

707captain wrote on Oct 15th, 2010 at 8:21am:
Now that is really bad. It means that I need t have the full cockpit lights on only to have the cabin illuminated.

Also, there MUST be a switch to turn on the panel background illumination (the letters, numbers, symbols etc, not the instruments themselves). This also works with "Shift+L" or the light override switch.

It is not realistic to fly with all lights on in the cockpit at night.

@CAPTAINSIM: PLEASE FIX!!!

That's really strange. When I press the SHIFT+L, I get some extra light in the cockpit (not too bright) and the lights in the cabin. I certainly don't get all the lights in the cockpit. And the only time it seems to get too bright in the cockpit (to me) is if I turn on the White Dome light or Red Dome light.

Mark

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