I seem to be having a problem with this plane which is very similar to the known problem that existed with the another company JS4100 which, AFTER WAY TOO LONG, led to their acknowledging the issue and led to a work-around in their configuration file.

I have flashing textures when in VC mode. I can recreate the flashing even when it doesn't occur at first load by simply changing between full screen and windows mode.

I am not referring to the textures of the VC but rather to video flashing. This is not present in any other plane and this does not occur in any other view of the 707 except for the VC and were not present in the original download but ONLY in the upgrade.

I also seem to be missing the landing gear at times when I first load the plane.

This behavior occurs in all the models.

I have friends whom I fly with who own the plane and they are also experiencing the exact same issues. In single player and in multiplayer

I was wondering if there is anyone else who has seen this and if anyone has any ideas?

Thanx

ramsa329
www.fs-gs.com

I did have same problem  I uninstalled 707 1.1 and reinstalled 707 1.0,then installed 707 1.1 and clicked on Repair.
Problem solved, I hope this helps you. :)

I have tried that and it did not solve the issue but thanks for the advise

Now noticing that if I or my friends start at the pre-set Seattle flight from CS there is no flashing and all is well

However the minute I change to another airport the flashing returns with a vengence.

and we still have the occasional LOAD WITHOUT WHEELS issue

so.............................................................

Ive gone back to V 1... nothing I've tried fixes V 1.1

There is a post regarding CTDs and in that post a discussion about the flashing textures in the VC.

I would like to post my reply here also so that people who are encountering this problem will see that others are posting about it and will speak up.

I wouldn't even post if this add-on were a typical $30.00 or even $40.00 expense but that is not the case at all.

There is something fundamentally unstable with the update that was not present in the original.

and going down the path of blaming settings or an individuals machine environment IS NOT tHE ANSWER.

This is a software issue just as the another company JS4100 issue was the software and making machine excuses is just a form of HIDE AND SEEK.

So here's the post:

"There is a fundamental error in the software that was not present in the original release and that error is not machine related.

If the CS pre-set flight at Seattle is loaded than the flashing textures are not there but the second that the plane is moved to any other location or a flight is started at another location the flashing reappears.

These are not spikes or ground texture whiteouts or black outs as one would expect to see if buffer pools were set out of the video cards range or beyond its capacity and if it were a pure texture issue than it would occur in the default flight as well.

If this was happening to only me than I could see the idea of a machine specific related error but that is not the case at all

If this were a $30.00 purchase it would be a lot easier to accept but it is not.

This is an expensive add-on and something is wrong and it needs to be addressed."

SOONER NOT LATER

ramsa329

www.fs-gs.com

Does the flashing appears if you use "flight deck only" VC? See ACE.

ramsa329, how come you think that YOUR problem is a fundamental one while many others are flying crash- and problemfree?
Tho forums would be full of people if the crashes or flashing were a mayor problem, don't you think?

Do you think your "this is an expensive addon" sentence helps anyone around in the support staff? Everyone is aware about the price and usually support workers can't work harder on high priced things, because the already do work hard independent from the fact of how much money was spent. Nice attribute I think.
Please try to calm down and deliver some values to work with.

As you could see before, the guys from Captain Sim are listening to customers around but it won't help if one of them goes lunatic and posts something about "fundamental error" all over the place.
First thing might be to answer their questions.
Seems like they are already on it, fellow Captain.

It's sad to read that your installation does not run fine, mine does, so at least there are two opposites existent which shows that there might be anything else but "fundamental error"  ;)

Hi Captain Sim.

I'm not sure if the flashing textures problem is just a Captain Sim problem. I have this exact same problem with the "others" JS41. When I see it (in the VC only) I just reload the plane and it disappears. It happened with the JS41 on my old system* as well as my newly upgraded system.

It happens about half the time (1 in 2) I select the JS41, but it has only happened only a couple of times out of many times that I have selected the CS707.

Mark

*Old system: Intel Core 2 Quad 9550 @ 2.83GHz | 8GB DDR2 800 RAM | Nvidia 9800 GTX+ |22" LCD Monitor | 2 x 1TB HDD, 1 x 500GB HDD, 1 x 320GB External HDD | Windows 7 Profession 64 bit

Captain Sim wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 10:47am:

Does the flashing appears if you use "flight deck only" VC? See ACE.

CS:
Thanks for the fast reply. I reinstalled the update, changed all planes to 'flight deck only', and the flashing seems to be fixed. I need to test this more as it's only been a few minutes now, but I did check in both single and multiplayer. Of course I have some strange views cycling through the cabin, but I can live with that for now.

Since you are aware of this by pointing us in that direction, is there a fix coming? Even though I dont smoke Marlboro's, I  love having a smoking section  :)

CP:
Ramsa isnt the only one with the issue or being a bit upset about it. I'm sure you would be too if it was happening to you.

Lets emphasize that a fix can only come from a detailed description of a problem and a successful reproduction in the devs office.
So your question about a fix for the flashing (the other dev still hasn't one, just a workaround) answers itself. Sorry to say that.

I don't have any flashes or crashes, with the cabin on or off, so finding the problem won't be easy as it is system dependent.

Mark, do you know the workaround for that other plane? It is written in their forums and mainly consists of "go to medium detail in the VC".
I know this because I own it too (nice one) and had the flashes there while the 707 is flash-free here.
Their workaround kills the flashes but not the nature of that problem of course.

Ok as of now with my, and others initial testing, have found that the flashing stops when every plane is set to VC only in ACE.

So now we have a work-around and are pointed in the right direction for a fix.

Thanks to everyone at Captainsim and in the forums for such a swift response.

To Mark:

The fix for the another company JS4100 is in their configuration utility and is associated to the VC.

Simply change "Virtual Cockpit Model Options" to medium.

To CoolP:

As I said before if it was one system than maybe I would consider machine related conditions but it wasn't as the work-around clearly shows.

It was and is now, as it was before, an issue with the software.

No amount of SNAPPING AT ME  will change the fact that we (who were encountering the problem) now have a work-around to what was happening.

I tried to narrow down the HIDE and SEEK factor which so often happens in forums so that those who could would more easily be able to isolate the problem and could do so without being distracted by random solutions and guesses.

I was not attacking CS I was looking for a solution or at least an interim work-around. I am a supporter of theirs and always have been even when many others were not.

In any case:

Again a big THANK YOU to CS for such a great plane, for the support and for the work-around.

Now I'm going to go fly

ramsa329

www.fs-gs.com
 

CoolP.

It happens 50% of the time when I first load the JS41, it disappears after I reload the aircraft (menu method: ALT, Aircraft, Select Aircraft then ENTER). I have a keyboard shortcut of CTRL+SHIFT+R to reload the aircraft.

Mark

ramsa329, and once again: I don't have any flashing here, Cabin on or off so it wasn't, isn't and won't be a general issue.
I don't know what you mean with "snapping" but I usually hop in if somebody explains the world something wrong (meaning "general problem" which is a wrong statement as seen) and correct it.
Call this whatever you like and enjoy your plane.

Mark, exactly your experience with the other plane.
They state that this will be fixed in SP2 and until then, the workaround is stated in their forums or spoken here (don't ask me why other guys repeat the advice).

ramsa329 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 4:59pm:

Ok as of now with my, and others initial testing, have found that the flashing stops when every plane is set to VC only in ACE.

Thanks for your feedback. It's seems the problem is the complete model (with the passenger cabin, wings and the textures) is huge and gives some kind of marginal load on the computer (video memory I believe) that causes this kind of artifacts like flashing.

Captain Sim wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 5:18pm:

ramsa329 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2010 at 4:59pm: Ok as of now with my, and others initial testing, have found that the flashing stops when every plane is set to VC only in ACE. Thanks for your feedback. It's seems the problem is the complete model (with the passenger cabin, wings and the textures) is huge and gives some kind of marginal load on the computer (video memory I believe) that causes this kind of artifacts like flashing.

Just completed a flight from KPBI - KATL, workaround is verified, no flashing.

ramsa329 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 4:59pm:

To Mark: The fix for the other JS4100 is in their configuration utility and is associated to the VC. Simply change "Virtual Cockpit Model Options" to medium.

I have what I would class as a very good and powerful system and I want my Full Version VC in that plane. All I do is reload the plane and the problem goes away. Problem solved (for me). It was just that my CS707 did an identical thing, so I felt it worth stating that. With the CS707 it has happened only once in three days which include quite a few short flights, a long flight and being loaded into FSX numerous times.

Mark

After installing vers. 1.1, I experienced problems with the cockpit with blank squares momentarily flashing, and lines dark lines running through the cockpit. I remembered that after installing vers. 1.1, FSX did not ask me if the CS707 dll's were trusted.  So I uninstalled vers. 1.1, opened up my FSX.cfg file, and erased all the entries under the "trusted" heading.  When FSX restarted, it asked me if the CS dll's were trusted, I said yes, and the cockpit appeared with no problems.  I hope someone will find this useful.  Mike Gutierrez

I just wanted to report that I too am experiencing the flashing VC textures with v1.1. The strange thing is that I installed v1.1 on Saturday morning (not having ever installed v1) and had no problems with any flashing that Saturday or the following Sunday - and I had the passenger cabin activated for all my flights. Today, however, I suddenly started getting the flashing textures and I'd made no modifications to the plane or the system. And I've only flown the American livery so there wasn't even a livery change. Turning off the passenger cabin eliminated the flashing.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate, FSX Acceleration, an Intel 930, an nVidia 470, and 6 GB of Ram.

Robert

Hi Robert.

That is similar to how it happened to me. First couple of days - perfect, then wham - shattered graphics. So I have set my [BUFFERPOOLS] poolsize=250000000 in my fsx.cfg and it seems better and I'm back to using the fullvc & pax cabin with a problem (so far).

In case you don't know how to do it, or haven't done it, I added this line to the bottom of the fsx.cfg file and saved it:

[BUFFERPOOLS]
Poolsize=250000000

BACKUP the fsx.cfg before making any changes!

Mark

"Thanks for your feedback. It's seems the problem is the complete model (with the passenger cabin, wings and the textures) is huge and gives some kind of marginal load on the computer (video memory I believe) that causes this kind of artifacts like flashing."

CS,

What size of Video memory  do you think is sufficient to play 707 with cabin?
Thanks
Sanal

asanal wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2010 at 3:01pm:

What size of Video memory  do you think is sufficient to play 707 with cabin?

Sanal,
depends on your system and FSX setup.
Average 1G video card will do. Some extra RAM is good idea as well.

Alex,

Thanks for your reply.
I made some more long flights and few short flights. Majority of time I am still getting flashing,
I have sufficient Video memory in  my systems. FSX high settings with 707 ,still 1485MB memory available. GTX480

ACE is not working. I am keep checking  Flight Deck only and  clicking save, it goes gray, but my check mark disappears. Still Exterior attached to 707.

Some flights flashing disappears, I enjoy the flight. Most of the days it is back. :(
BTW, Doppler and INS are working perfect
If I am an  only member is experiencing with this problem. Then forget it. You do it when you have a spare time. :'(
Sanal

Hi Sanal.

Have you tried doing a reinstall? Or maybe even get a new link and download the 707 v1.2 again to see if that fixes up the ACE issue. Even with my i7, 8GB DDR 1600 and nVidia GTX 470 with 1280MB GDDR5 memory, I get the flashing graphics sometimes, it is only when using the full cabin.

If ACE isn't doing it for you. Try changing the model.cfg in the model.b and model.adv folders. The changed parts are bold.

model.b. from this:
[models]
normal=..\model\csx701_320b
interior=..\model\csx701_interior

to this:
[models]
normal=..\model\csx701_320b
interior=..\model\csx701_interior_light

model.adv. from this:

[models]
normal=..\model\csx701_320adv
interior=..\model\csx701_interior

to this:
[models]
normal=..\model\csx701_320adv
interior=..\model\csx701_interior_light

Hope this helps.

Mark

Mark,
Thanks.
I will try.
Sanal

I uninstalled the plane including all left over folders then installed the update fresh and it fixed the flashing problem, however Aces still doesnt work here. Since CS closed the thread about it I guess I'm stuck with that.

Hi JayG.


JayG wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 8:54pm:

Aces still doesnt work here.

Is this the same ACES problem as Sanal is having? If it is, you can try my workaround. That should help for now, at least.

Mark

I dont know what sanal's problem is, but mine is that Aces will not retain changes.

Hi JayG.

OK. So that means you are having the same problem with the ACE as Sanal. Try the fix I posted in reply #23 above.

Hope this helps.

Mark

I identified the ACE problem and FIXED. Every time,  I try to make  a   clean uninstall / reinstalling ,I found old October 15th 707 and  cfg   file was still reamaing in FSX Sim Objects / airplanes folder. Therefore  corrupted ACE was remaining unchanged. How it is possible, I dont know.

Manually I deleted October 15 installation from FSX Sim Objects /Airplane folder and Today Nov 1,2010 installed fresh 707 from Captain Sim side.IN Sim Obcets/Airplane date turned toNoc 1, 2010 And  new ACE saved  the" Flight Deck Only"
:D :D :D

Now, only problem still remaining is "Flashing". May be  some one will get  lucky like me and will solve this problem also. ;D ;D