Does anybody know if this message is supposed to happen when you extend them when drag is required. Right now it is not happening, but it does give the message on the ground, why not in the air.

Fly from Portland wrote on Mar 4^th, 2016 at 1:44am:


The message "SPËEDBRAKE extended" should appear on Eicas in the AIR if thrust levers are not closed !

From 777 FCOM: "Eicas message SPEEDBRAKE EXTENDED(+aural beep): Speedbrake is extended when radio altitude is between 15 and 800 feet, or when the flap lever is in a landing position, or when either thrust lever is not closed"

On the CS777, when airborne, the message appears only in the first 2 conditions (Ra between 15 and 800, plane in landing configuration)
It is MISSING on the third one (thrust lever not closed) . This can be annoying sometimes.

But otherwise imho the CS777 has reached a quite GOOD LEVEL now with V1.7 ! 

Guy

The message "SPËEDBRAKE extended" appears now  on Eicas in the AIR if speedbrake extended and thrust levers not closed !

One must apply the patch given on this page by Tanya:

http://www.captainsim.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1338411567/448#448

Now that those issues are resolved and working well, there is only one minor cosmetic left for me. The dome light in the -300 model doesn't dim. Any chance for a quick fix by a link for this.

Fly from Portland wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:


I have not seen this. I hope you realize  that the message comes NOT when you SET the speedbrake, but only when the speedbrake IS set AND the AP has to apply THRUST to hold the commanded speed (at level-off for example). 
Guy

I cannot reproduce the problem you see.
I made all sort of experiments now during descent.
The MESSAGE+AURAL BEEP came up each time when they should, that is when Speedbrake extended and thrust not closed.

One thing must be said:
On the REAL 777 during normal VNAV descent Thrust is IDLE (where "Idle" is not really idle but a value computed by the FMC which varies with altitude  (N1=24-38))
So, when you set the speedbrake , the message does not come up immediatly, as thrust is idle, but only after speed reduction, when the Ap must apply more thrust to hold the commanded speed.
The Cs777 is not "realistic" here as during normal VNAV descent Thrust is NOT IDLE but about N1=50-70 (at a ROD of 1800 ft/min).
So when you set the speedbrake the message comes up immediatly as there is ALWAYS THRUST applied.

To test if with the CS777 the message comes up only if the 2 conditions are fulfilled(Speedbrake set and Thrust applied) I made a (very) late descent, starting the descent from 5000 feet above normal profile. In this case the CS777 reduces thrust to idle, and the message came well up only when more thrust was applied.

I use Fsx-Sp2 (without Accel)

That's all !