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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	SP 2.6 has broken the CIVA-INS on my system. Everything stock, fresh clean install. The INS aligns, goes green, switch to NAV mode. I takeoff, get cleaned up, ATC turns me to first fix, fly to fix with AP on, Manual mode, HDG switch on, selector on "B". I get to the point where ATC tells me to turn and proceed on course, I switch to "A" on the selector, the plane keeps following the manual heading setting. It was working as it should in 2.5

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Dutch Full Member Offline Posts: 75 Joined: Sep 25^th, 2011	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #1 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	I've found that if you put the autopilot source selector on AB, HDG switch on, the CIVA will drive the heading. However, it seems that the WAYPT CHG procedure doesn't work, or I'm doing it wrong. If I select a different waypoint the indicators on the CIVA change but the airplane continues to fly to the next waypoint, not the one I selected. Also, the heading bug is still about 5-7 degrees to the right of where the airplane actually steers. This is with the recently installed 2.6 - which is a great update. But still a few bugs, maybe. Dutch

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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #2 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	Haha, they pulled a switcheroo! AB on the Nav Source Selector does work, and they changed the manual to reflect that. They also seem to have fixed the issue I was having where ASN was seemingly interfering with the INS alignment. I wonder what else changed from 2.5 to 2.6?

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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #3 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 5:07pm	Print Post
	Dutch wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 3:02pm: I've found that if you put the autopilot source selector on AB, HDG switch on, the CIVA will drive the heading. However, it seems that the WAYPT CHG procedure doesn't work, or I'm doing it wrong. If I select a different waypoint the indicators on the CIVA change but the airplane continues to fly to the next waypoint, not the one I selected. Also, the heading bug is still about 5-7 degrees to the right of where the airplane actually steers. This is with the recently installed 2.6 - which is a great update. But still a few bugs, maybe. Dutch The way waypoint change works on my setup is if I'm flying from wpt2 to wpt3, and I want to fly direct to, say, wpt7, I hit wy pt chg, 2 7 insert.

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Dutch Full Member Offline Posts: 75 Joined: Sep 25^th, 2011	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #4 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 8:25pm	Print Post
	You are correct, that procedure works. I was entering 6 7 not 2 7 in your example.

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ce_zeta Full Member Offline Posts: 38 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2010	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #5 - Jul 26^th, 2015 at 10:35am	Print Post
	The changes since patch 2.5 are: - CIVA alignment and Active Sky Next compatibility fixed - HDG bug fixed - Flaps gauge fixed Yeah, I will put my 727 in operation again!


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Naibor Full Member Offline Posts: 78 Joined: Aug 5^th, 2010	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #6 - Jul 26^th, 2015 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	Dutch wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 8:25pm: You are correct, that procedure works. I was entering 6 7 not 2 7 in your example. If you want to fly direct to, for example to the waypoint 7, enter 0 7 (where 0 is the present position), and the aircraft flys to this waypoint. I hope it hepls

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Jim Kaye Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Location: Richland, WA Joined: Aug 20^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #7 - Jul 27^th, 2015 at 2:46am	Print Post
	Just completed a flight where I put the autopilot source selector on AB, HDG switch on, and confirmed that the CIVA will drive the heading, as suggested above by Dutch. Version 2.6 is a great improvement. Routinely can fly with Active Sky Next, Plan-G, and FSX Fiber Accelerator all working perfectly on my 4-monitor system. As mentioned elsewhere, I have not yet found a way to view the Autopilot easily at night by clicking on the icon because it is very dark. And when using the animations icon, selecting either the air stairs or the service door causes the main door to open/close. All very minor details. But this is a very complex aircraft, and Captain Sim has created an outstanding simulation. Jim Kaye

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Naibor Full Member Offline Posts: 78 Joined: Aug 5^th, 2010	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #8 - Jul 27^th, 2015 at 6:59am	Print Post
	As the manual PART II – Aircraft and Systems, says in page 68: 6. Navigation Source Selector Autopilot will track CIVA-INS flightplan: - Autopilot Mode Selector should be in MAN position; - Autopilot HDG Switch should be engaged; - Autopilot Navigation Source Selector - pos AB; - Heading Bug on Captain's HSI will be controlled by CIVA-INS. So it looks like an improvement of CIVA mplementation.

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EY CS Team Offline Posts: 352 Location: Canada Joined: Nov 9^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #9 - Jul 27^th, 2015 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	Yes, we changed Autopilot Navigation Source Selector for tracking CIVA from A to AB due to initialization issue.


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Steph D Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2014	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #10 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 11:18am	Print Post
	SP2.6 works great except that I had a little problems during the 3 flights I made till now... During the flight, I lose aviaonic power so the AP would turn off and then the CIVA INS could not follow the track anymore.... I need to turn on avionics master with the keyboard key I linked to the avionic master function... Anyone know why I'm losing avionics during flight? Thanks


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #11 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	I used to have the sudden loss of power/avionics problem in 2.4, but it doesn't happen to me in 2.6. What you might try is set up your default flight with the Cessna 182, turn everything off, except for avionics, which should be on. Then save that as the default flight.

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Axel Full Member Offline Posts: 32 Joined: Oct 13^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #12 - Aug 1^st, 2015 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Hi, is the CIVA INS also in the VC available and modelled? Best regards, Axel


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Ken Boardman Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #13 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 4:10am	Print Post
	I just installed V2.6 and Dual CIVA. The CDUs, MSUs etc look OK and I'm reasonably sure that the panel.cfg file has been correctly modified, but CIVA won't power on. What steps are necessary to power on the CIVA? Has the CIVA power-on procedure changed for V2.6? I've tried C&D cockpit and just setting the MSU to STBY but CIVA doesn't show any signs of life. With V2.6, are we now required to energize the 727 with battery, Ext Power, APU, etc prior to setting CIVA to Stby ? Any tips will be appreciated, Best to all, Ken


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Ken Boardman Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #14 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 4:46am	Print Post
	I found the problem. A line in the -200 model's panel.cfg was not numbered correctly. The CIVAs in the other 727 models powered on normally (the clue My bahhhd.. Ken


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Ken Boardman Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #15 - Aug 21^st, 2015 at 4:03am	Print Post
	I got the dual CIVAs to align tonight and loaded the first 9 waypoints. All went well until I switched the AP Nav source switch to "ab". Then the plane went into a LH turn and the HSI heading pointer started flashing from the top of the HSI to the bottom repeatedly. The plane will follow the FSX loaded FP with the GPS, but not the CIVA. Has anyone else seen this or have any tips for a remedy? Thank you, Ken


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Ken Boardman Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	Well, I got the dual CIVA to work properly by placing the APNav Source switch in the "b" position. The "ab" position doesn't work for me. I'd read in a post that the "ab" position was correct. At this point I'm thinking that perhaps the "ab" position is correct for the CIVA (single unit) that is included with the 727 but I have not tested this. I use the Simufly CIVA add-on. Ken


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Don Nelson Full Member Offline Don Posts: 83 Location: USA Joined: May 11^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: SP2.6 Broke my CIVA-INS Reply #17 - Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 4:57am	Print Post
	Ken, Does the Accuracy Performance Index stay fixed at 5 or does it climb up to 9 while using dual cdu's? At 6 or higher does it turn to the correct heading for each leg without the heading bug jumping around? Don


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