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Lee Park Full Member Offline Posts: 99 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Joined: Apr 11^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #30 - Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:47am	Print Post
	Paul, I had a few cracks but was missing icons or in one instance could not install to get actual card to come up. Eventually removed it from the 100F. I don't know enough about the innards of these things. Hopefully one day you may consider expanding to the 100 F and 200 and 200F. I find this incredibly useful. Just out of curiosity, how are you coming along with the one for the 707?


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #31 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 5:13am	Print Post
	Paul, Thanks, I installed and solved the no sound problem. All OK now. I have one questions: 1-How did you managed 727 Load stations amount? Sanal


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #32 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 8:41am	Print Post
	Lee Park wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:47am: Paul, I had a few cracks but was missing icons or in one instance could not install to get actual card to come up. Eventually removed it from the 100F. I don't know enough about the innards of these things. Hopefully one day you may consider expanding to the 100 F and 200 and 200F. I find this incredibly useful. Just out of curiosity, how are you coming along with the one for the 707? The 707 gauge is on hold right now as I'm currently working on another project. I'll be a few weeks out for sure.


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #33 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 9:03am	Print Post
	asanal wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 5:13am: 1-How did you managed 727 Load stations amount? Glad your sound problems are sorted out � If you're referring to the CG% value on the gauge, I added an offset value to what FSX reports as the current CG% value. Determining what the offset value should be required a lot of searching on the internet. I eventually found the information I needed from an 727-100 accident report.


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #34 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	I think I didn't make my question clear. MY questions was, when I load "Payload" there are only three "Load Stations" available in FS Fuel/Payload page. Those three load stations are for Captain, FO and FE. No passenger load stations. If I divide total load 15,000 Lbs, I have to put each load 5,000Lbs. This will keep CG all the way nose of the plane. In �Aircraft cfg Weight/Balance section you can see available Load Stations are 50, but CS did not open those 50 Stations.(May be CS did it and I missed it) Now, I am testing 727-200 �stations, I took all stations and reduced to 87 passenger stations and saved �to Aircraft Cfg, file ( I didn't make any changes for Containers load stations, YET). That is how I am making my TEST flights with out any problem, but I am sure this is �not the correct way to adjust Weight and Balance"stations for 727-100 I was wondering how did you over come proper payload loading? [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] max_gross_weight=161000 empty_weight=87600 max_zf_weight=118000 reference_datum_position � � = �0, 0, 0 � empty_weight_CG_position � � = 0, 0, 0 � max_number_of_stations =50 station_load.0 =170, 49, -2, 0, Captain station_load.1 =170, 49, 2, 0, First Officer station_load.2 =170, 46, 0, 0, Flight Engineer station_name.0 = "Captain" station_name.1 = "First Officer" station_name.2 = "Flight Engineer" station_load.0 =170, 49, -2, 0, Captain � station_load.1 =170, 49, 2, 0, First Officer station_load.2 =170, 46, 0, 0, Flight Engineer station_name.0 = "Pilot" station_name.1 = "Co-Pilot" � station_name.2 = "Crew" station_name.3 = "First Class" station_name.4 = "Coach 3-10" station_name.5 = "Coach 11-18" station_name.6 = "Coach 19-25" station_name.7 = "Forward Baggage" � station_name.8 = "Aft Baggage" empty_weight_roll_MOI=620000.000000 empty_weight_pitch_MOI=2500000.000000 empty_weight_yaw_MOI=2700000.000000 empty_weight_coupled_MOI=0.000000 unit_weight.1=180 unit_weight.2=1200 station_load.3=200, 38, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.4=200, 38, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.5=200, 38, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.6=200, 35, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.7=200, 35, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.8=200, 35, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.9=200, 31, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.10=200, 31, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.11=200, 31, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.12=200, 28, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.13=200, 28, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.14=200, 25, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.15=200, 25, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.16=200, 25, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.17=200, 22, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.18=200, 22, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.19=200, 22, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.20=200, 19, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.21=200, 19, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.22=200, 19, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.23=200, 15, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.24=200, 15, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.25=200, 8, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.26=200, 8, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.27=200, 8, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.28=200, 5, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.29=200, 5, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.30=200, 5, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.31=200, 2, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.32=200, 0, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.33=200, -3, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.34=200, -3, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.35=200, -3, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.36=200, 0, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.37=200, 2, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.38=200, 2, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.39=200, -7, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.40=200, -7, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.41=200, -7, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.42=200, -10, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.43=200, -10, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.44=200, -10, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.45=200, -13, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.46=200, -13, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.47=200, -17, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.48=200, -20, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.49=200, -23, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.50=200, -23, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.51=200, -23, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.52=200, -20, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.53=200, -20, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.54=200, -17, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.55=200, -17, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.56=200, -27, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.57=200, -27, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.58=200, -27, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.59=200, -30, 2, 0, Passenger station_load.60=200, -30, 3, 0, Passenger station_load.61=200, -30, 5, 0, Passenger station_load.62=200, 38, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.63=200, 38, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.64=200, 38, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.65=200, 35, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.66=200, 35, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.67=200, 31, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.68=200, 31, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.69=200, 28, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.70=200, 28, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.71=200, 28, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.72=200, 25, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.73=200, 25, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.74=200, 25, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.75=200, 22, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.76=200, 22, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.77=200, 19, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.78=200, 19, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.79=200, 19, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.80=200, 15, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.81=200, 15, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.82=200, 15, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.83=200, 8, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.84=200, 8, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.85=200, 8, -2, 0, Passenger station_load.86=200, 5, -5, 0, Passenger station_load.87=200, 5, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.118=1200, 29, 0, -2, Container station_load.119=1200, 23, 0, -2, Container station_load.120=1200, 35, 0, -2, Container station_load.121=1200, -37, 0, -2, Container station_load.122=1200, -29, 0, -2, Container station_load.123=1200, -45, 0, -2, Container


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #35 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 12:00am	Print Post
	asanal wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 4:20pm: I think I didn't make my question clear. MY questions was, when I load "Payload" there are only three "Load Stations" available in FS Fuel/Payload page. Those three load stations are for Captain, FO and FE. No passenger load stations. If I divide total load 15,000 Lbs, I have to put each load 5,000Lbs. This will keep CG all the way nose of the plane. In �Aircraft cfg Weight/Balance section you can see available Load Stations are 50, but CS did not open those 50 Stations.(May be CS did it and I missed it) Now, I am testing 727-200 �stations, I took all stations and reduced to 87 passenger stations and saved �to Aircraft Cfg, file ( I didn't make any changes for Containers load stations, YET). That is how I am making my TEST flights with out any problem, but I am sure this is �not the correct way to adjust Weight and Balance"stations for 727-100 I was wondering how did you over come proper payload loading? I believe your main issue is that you must run the ACE Tool as 'Administrator'. This is essential with Vista or Windows 7. Also the following section does nothing and should be removed: station_name.0 = "Pilot" station_name.1 = "Co-Pilot" � station_name.2 = "Crew" station_name.3 = "First Class" station_name.4 = "Coach 3-10" station_name.5 = "Coach 11-18" station_name.6 = "Coach 19-25" station_name.7 = "Forward Baggage" � station_name.8 = "Aft Baggage" � Please note that your station loads are not sequentially numbered which is an indicator of ACE not saving your changes properly (i.e. *not* running as Administrator): station_load.87=200, 5, -3, 0, Passenger station_load.118=1200, 29, 0, -2, Container Your 'max_number_of_stations' should be '94' not '50'. Hope this helps you with your load problems. Paul


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #36 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 6:00am	Print Post
	Paul, Thanks, all fixed Sanal


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Fatback Full Member Offline Posts: 13 Joined: Jan 5^th, 2012	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge with Sounds Reply #37 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 7:44pm	Print Post
	Nice job!! Took me a while to get it going (use error lol) but it sure adds another dimension. Thanks!


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #38 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:28am	Print Post
	I've updated the V-One gauge to now include the -200...freighters as well! Also, Pounds (LB), Kilograms (KG), Celsius (C) and Fahrenheit (F) are supported! Please see first post (original post) for details!


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #39 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 1:52am	Print Post
	Thanks for your efforts again, Paul.


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DanW Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Jul 11^th, 2012	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #40 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:49am	Print Post
	Hi Guys, This should work ok with Michael's flight model mod? Hmm I saw in the readme file "IMPORTANT: Do not use any modified .air file! Use only the cs727100.air and cs727200.air original files!" This means a hard decision.. revert from Michael's mod to use this, or go without V-One mod.. Has anybody done any full test flights with both together? thanks


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #41 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:22am	Print Post
	DanW wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 3:49am: Hi Guys, This should work ok with Michael's flight model mod? Hmm I saw in the readme file "IMPORTANT: Do not use any modified .air file! Use only the cs727100.air and cs727200.air original files!" This means a hard decision.. revert from Michael's mod to use this, or go without V-One mod.. � Has anybody done any full test flights with both together? thanks I wrote this gauge with the intent to support the majority of users, most of which are *not* using significant modifications. Starting with a 'stock' set-up made the most sense. I did try Michael's mods when they first came out and did not keep them so no testing with the V-One gauge was done by me. The V-One gauge items affected by the mods will be: V-speeds, trim units, Opt Alt and Opt EPR. My suggestion is to try the V-One gauge with what you have. Do not use the recommended thrust value change (16080) and use what you are currently using. Try out the gauge and let us know if it works okay or not at all.


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DanW Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Jul 11^th, 2012	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #42 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:41am	Print Post
	Thanks Paul I might give it a try. Just curious how come you didn't keep Michael's mods? Is it the issue Tanya highlighted in her screenshot? Or issue with the pitch? I'm not real familiar with the real 727, so just trying to get the best result possible with what CS have given us, modded or not.


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #43 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	DanW wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:41am: Thanks Paul I might give it a try. Just curious how come you didn't keep Michael's mods? Is it the issue Tanya highlighted in her screenshot? Or issue with the pitch? I'm not real familiar with the real 727, so just trying to get the best result possible with what CS have given us, modded or not. My thoughts were the 727 set-up was good right 'out-of-the-box'. After installing the mods I experienced really bad rotation tendencies and engine over-revving. To me, the 'improved' flight dynamics and 'on-the-mark' numbers just weren't important enough to keep. This is just my opinion and I'm sure others would say the mods are a great improvement to an already great aircraft. Anyway, the V-One gauge can be installed for the audible call-outs only. You would still initialize the gauge as described in the readme file and then just toggle off the V-One and Data Card and ignore for the rest of your flight.


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DanW Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Jul 11^th, 2012	Re: V-One Takeoff and Landing Gauge w/Sounds (Updated) Reply #44 - Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 3:18pm	Print Post
	Thanks Paul Also do you think you'll be doing the 707 Gauge soon I really like the 707 more than the 727 and would love to use the V-One gauge


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