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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12360 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #30 - Jul 19^th, 2011 at 3:01am	Print Post
	701151 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2011 at 12:33am: You can't have a GPS in teh 727, its from different worlds, they don't belong. Then why does the CS727 have the 2D GPS in the first place? The 727 can fly an FS Flight Plan, which is used by switching the NAV/GPS Switch to GPS so it can track the flight plan. Good enough reason to fly a GPS plan IMO. What do you say to those who would really like Captain Sim (in the 727 Captain - it'd be nice if... forum) to retro fit the 727 with an FMC? Just curious.

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BrianG Full Member Offline Posts: 205 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #31 - Jul 19^th, 2011 at 3:23am	Print Post
	I don't know if the 727 had a GPS or not. Even if it didn't its fun to use. One can always turn it off if you want to go the traditional route. Same reason I installed one on the 707. And thanks Mark for all your help in installing it.


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701151 Senior Member Offline Delta 737-200 Posts: 1009 Location: UNITED STATES Joined: Jan 29^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #32 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:45am	Print Post
	The Boeing 727 is from the 1960's, and GPS technolgy didn't breakout for aviation until after production ended.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12360 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #33 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 7:44am	Print Post
	701151 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:45am: The Boeing 727 is from the 1960's, and GPS technolgy didn't breakout for aviation until after production ended. GPS is the way the default FS Flight Planner does its plans. If the 727 can follow it and I can see/follow it in the GPS. I will use it if I want. If I want to fly it VOR to VOR, then I will do that too. It all comes down to ones preference and how real you want your flight to be. Nobody can force you use the default FS Flight Planner and GPS if you don't want to, so why worry? Mark

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CXA546 Full Member Offline Posts: 49 Joined: Oct 18^th, 2011	Re: GPS flight path Reply #34 - Oct 19^th, 2011 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	I really dislike the FS default GPS. Its such a bad implementation of a "GPS". If you really want to use GPS, I would highly recommend the Reality XP units. A true representation of the GNS430 and 530 with WAAS and LPV approaches. Plus the NAV/GPS switch is right on the unit. Much more up to date as well, has SID's and STAR's, and you can change your flight plan on the fly, or go direct waypoint without wiping everything out. Many developers are starting to allow seemless integration of Reality XP into their aircraft for people that own it. I've been using either CIVA INS on mine or just VOR/NDB. Sometimes I'll fly VOR/NDB and use the INS to fly an RNAV STAR. I also have the ISG gauges but haven't tried using them because I have FMC on too many other planes.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12360 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #35 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:37am	Print Post
	The default FS GPS has two things in its favor of it over the Reality XP units. 1) It's free. 2) It's much more simple to use. Reality XP GPS are great and require a bit more time to learn how to get the best out of them. They are not what I would call cheap either. Mark

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #36 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 1:09am	Print Post
	Very true on the price argument, Mark. The official support over there also is a bit wonky, to put it into the nicest words of mine. The units itself are very nice though, but don't fit a 727 in my eyes. 727 + INS is the combo I love and can recommend, so close your ears if you don't want to hear it, guys. � It's there, it's free, it works, it's fun and also teaches some stuff while staying at least close to the classic impression the old 727 gives us.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12360 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #37 - Feb 1^st, 2012 at 1:44am	Print Post
	Here is the info for adding the NAV/GPS switch from the default MSFS C172 into the 727-100: [Window03] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=447,106 position=2 visible=0 ident=10005 gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 20,0, 427,106 gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 0,0,20,20 gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 0,20,20,20 And for the 727-200, 727-100F and 727-200F: [Window03] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=447,106 position=2 visible=0 ident=10005 gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 20,0, 427,106 gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 0,0,20,20 gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 0,20,20,20 Now you have the solution for all of them in one place. ALWAYS backup the panel.cfg before making the changes!!! Mark

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CesarW Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Location: Panama Joined: May 1^st, 2016 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #38 - May 8^th, 2016 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	Hi! I recently bought the 737 and 727 I already made the 737 fully functional. But the 727 is refusing to do so. I have a freeware 727 2d panel with full functions, but GPS, APP NAV buttons refuse to work. I followed a suggestion for making the AT work. Also installed a custom AP panel, ignoring the default one. Same with the Nav and APP buttons.


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Mustang1977 Full Member Offline Posts: 150 Location: Austria Joined: May 27^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #39 - May 9^th, 2016 at 11:14am	Print Post
	Hello, First of all, it should be mentioned that the NAV/GPS Mod no longer necessary because in any update (I don't know which exactly) a NAV/GPS Switch is installed right in place of the pneumatic brake in the VC. @CesarW: Which systems exaclty are not function correctly in your 727? Only the AP? Have you got Cockpit-Sounds (switches)?


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CesarW Full Member Offline Posts: 31 Location: Panama Joined: May 1^st, 2016 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #40 - May 14^th, 2016 at 8:16pm	Print Post
	What doesn't work is the NAV/GPS mode, and the APP mode, I can land safely doing visual.


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Mustang1977 Full Member Offline Posts: 150 Location: Austria Joined: May 27^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: GPS flight path Reply #41 - May 15^th, 2016 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Hello, This should work if the NAV/GPS Switch in the VC is in the NAV-Position and the AP-Knob in the "Auto G/S" Position. Don't forget to engage this configuration short at the bottom of the GS. And, of course, ILS-Frequencies have to be entered correctly for the corresponding runway.


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