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alligator Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2010	Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Dec 29^th, 2010 at 10:30pm	Print Post
	I'm reading the operation's manual, but I don't find any EPR table setting �for T.O., climb, cruise or go around. Anybody know the right setting??? And on the T.O. and approach tables, where we should get the V1,VR, V2 and flap retraction speed, the wieghts are incorrect because �the 727-100 has a MTOW �of 160000 pounds but on table, the weight is listed up to 210000 pounds and starts from 120000 pounds!!!! I think these weights are related to the 727-200!!!!! So, there are some table related the 727-100???

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Sawydz Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #1 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 8:53am	Print Post
	You'll find that data in QRH provided by "The Other Developer", I have no idea why CS didn't include this information with their product, it's just few pdf pages more...


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alligator Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #2 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	Sawydz wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 8:53am: You'll find that data in QRH provided by "The Other Developer", I have no idea why CS didn't include this information with their product, it's just few pdf pages more... Yeah!!! You'r right!!!! And I'd like to know How the people can fly a heavy aircraft without this important data???!!!! � And I'd like to know why Captainsim doesn't make a loadmanager where we can calculate ZF CG �and �TO CG!!!! �and so estimate the right setting for the trim tab!!!! �

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Sawydz Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #3 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	On the other hand, according to QRH I should be able to get M.80 with 1.85 EPR at gross weight of 130000, FL350 and SAT at least -54C, but in fact I need 2.19 EPR with SAT -58C. �Obviously there's huge possibility that it's me doing something wrong, because I'm not very experienced with this kind of aircrafts, so if anyone can provide some detailed explanation I would be very thankful. Regards, Grzegorz


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #4 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Member Micheal prepared excellent EPR settings and data for 727. I am using since they one. EPR setting are on Data target. http://www.mediafire.com/file/mgim4k44wzz/...20mod%201.1.zip


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Sawydz Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #5 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Thank You Asanal, I'll check it out right now!


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javiercuellar Full Member Offline Posts: 85 Joined: Dec 22^nd, 2009	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #6 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	This is the thread pointed by Asanal. The solution works great. http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1265004757/0#0


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alligator Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #7 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 8:06pm	Print Post
	Thanks asanal!!! � Now it seem to be a great airplane!!! And now with right EPR, MAC and TAT is more real and I can enjoy a real flight!!! I tried these mod and it looks great!!!! But the only think that I don't appreciate is the �attitude that seems to be too high during high speed, e.g. during cruise, Anyway it is mutch better than before!!!! Thanks a lot and thanks to Michael!!!! �

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Michael2 Full Member Offline Posts: 116 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2009	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #8 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 10:10pm	Print Post
	I'm glad your enjoying my modifications. From what I can gather, it should cruise at about 3' nose up. I don't remember off hand what it's doing in the sim, but I think I was close. Changing it is not so simple, as then you have to make other changes to get it to have the right attitude on approach without changing the fuel burn and power settings and so on. I am about ready to distribute a similar package for the 200.


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alligator Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #9 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	Hi Michael, I think you have done a great job, and imagine it �was not simple as you said!!!! A problem is also (for me) the low resolution of the attitude indicator and is pretty difficult read the right attitude!!!! Maybe is only a my opinion!!!! But I'm shure the attitude in cruise is too high!!! Anyway.... michael congratulation for your job!!! �

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alligator Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Nov 5^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #10 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	And if you ar ready to release a mod for the 200 edition, we are ready to get it!!!!

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Michael2 Full Member Offline Posts: 116 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2009	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #11 - Dec 30^th, 2010 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Thanks for your encouragement! The tooltip for the autopilot pitch control will give you an accurate pitch value. The artificial horizon is not so good, as you point out.


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Sawydz Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2010	Re: Some doubt about EPR and Vbugs setting!!! Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Michael thank You for your corrections to this airplane, now it behaves as expected. I'm surprised that CS didn't include this mod in their product yet! THANK YOU! And thanks to Asanal for pointing those corrections! Grzegorz


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